In the smoky haze of a Nashville TV studio back in 1988, two towering figures of outlaw country—Waylon Jennings and Hank Williams Jr.—turned a casual late-night appearance into a masterclass in raw, unfiltered Americana. Their performance on Nashville Now, hosted by the affable Ralph Emery, featured stripped-down renditions of Hank Williams Sr.’s timeless 1949 classic “Mind Your Own Business” and their own collaborative gem “The Conversation.” It was the kind of moment that didn’t just entertain; it transported fans back to the gritty roots of country music, where outlaws ruled and legends paid homage to their forebears.
The episode, aired on November 7, 1988, captured Jennings and Williams Jr.—affectionately known as Bocephus—in peak form. Both men, clad in their signature Western wear, leaned into acoustic guitars for an impromptu set that felt more like a back-porch jam than a polished broadcast. Williams Jr. kicked things off solo with “Mind Your Own Business,” his gravelly baritone channeling the ghost of his father, the original Hillbilly Shakespeare. The song, a cheeky admonition against meddling in others’ affairs, hit even harder coming from the son of its creator. “If the wife and I are fussin’, brother, that’s our right,” Williams belted, his delivery laced with the wry humor that made the track a No. 1 country hit in its day. Jennings, ever the stoic sidekick, joined in seamlessly, adding harmonies that turned the solo into a duet of defiance.

From there, the pair dove into “The Conversation,” their 1979 co-write that had become a staple of both their catalogs. Penned alongside Jennings’ longtime drummer Richie Albright, the track unfolds like a fireside chat between two road-weary troubadours. Jennings probes Williams about his storied lineage—“Now Hank, if you just got to tell me, did your daddy really write all them songs, did he?”—to which Bocephus fires back with a mix of pride and deflection: “That don’t deserve no answer, hoss. Let’s light up and just move along.” It’s a song that’s equal parts reverence and rebellion, dissecting the weight of legacy over a loping rhythm and steel guitar swells. On Nashville Now, their chemistry crackled; Jennings’ deep, rumbling bass locked in with Williams’ higher, snarling edge, creating a vocal interplay that felt as natural as breathing.
This wasn’t just any TV spot—it was a collision of eras. Jennings, the Lubbock-born renegade who’d helped ignite the outlaw movement in the 1970s alongside Willie Nelson and Tompall Glaser, was at 51 still radiating that don’t-tread-on-me aura. His bushy beard and long hair hadn’t changed since Wanted! The Outlaws, the 1976 album that sold a million copies and redefined Nashville’s slick sound. Williams Jr., 39 at the time, had spent the decade shedding his father’s shadow with rowdy anthems like “Family Tradition” and “All My Rowdy Friends (Have Settled Down).” A near-fatal 1975 mountain-climbing accident had left him with a metal plate in his head and a fiercer resolve, transforming him from crooner to rowdy icon.
Their bond ran deeper than shared stage time. Jennings had known Hank Sr. in his final days, even claiming in his 1996 autobiography Waylon that the elder Williams once gifted him a guitar. As for Bocephus, Jennings treated him like kin, once calling him “my little brother” in those same pages. The two had crossed paths since the early ’70s, bonding over mutual disdain for Music Row’s studio suits and a love for hard-living authenticity. By the late ’80s, they’d logged studio hours together, including the 1983 single release of “The Conversation” from Jennings’ Waylon & Company album—a track that peaked at No. 15 on the Billboard Country chart and even higher in Canada. That version came with a music video, a novelty for country at the time: Jennings’ first ever, and only Williams’ second.
“Mind Your Own Business,” meanwhile, was pure Williams family DNA. The original, cut in 1949 at Nashville’s Castle Studio, was Hank Sr.’s sly response to gossip about his stormy marriage to Audrey Sheppard. It topped the country charts and crossed over to pop, cementing his status as a hitmaker who could turn personal turmoil into universal truths. Hank Jr. had re-recorded it multiple times, including a 1986 all-star version with Reba McEntire, Willie Nelson, and Tom Petty for the HBO tribute Hank Williams Jr. and Friends. But on Nashville Now, stripped to acoustics, it became a vehicle for father-son echoes—Williams Jr. honoring the man whose suicide at 29 left him to navigate fame’s double-edged sword.
The performance’s magic lay in its spontaneity. Emery, the silver-haired host of TNN’s flagship show, had a knack for coaxing gold from guests. “Why don’t y’all sing us a couple of your favorites?” he suggested, and the outlaws obliged without a net. No big band, no pyrotechnics—just two guitars, two voices, and the kind of rapport that only comes from years on the circuit. Merle Haggard, another outlaw staple, even popped in as a guest, adding to the evening’s all-star vibe. Clips from that night have since gone viral on YouTube, racking up millions of views and comments like “This is country soul right here” and “Outlaws forever.”
Flash forward to 2024, and “The Conversation” is still gaining steam. On October 10, the RIAA certified it Gold—over 500,000 units sold or streamed—45 years after its debut on Williams’ Whiskey Bent and Hell Bound. It’s a testament to the track’s staying power, especially in an era where streaming algorithms keep outlaw anthems alive alongside newer acts like Sturgill Simpson or Tyler Childers. Covers abound, too: Shooter Jennings (Waylon’s son) and Holly Williams (Hank Jr.’s cousin) tackled it for a 2006 CMT special, while fans on Reddit’s r/OutlawCountry still geek out over bootlegs.
Why does this 1988 clip endure? It’s the unvarnished truth of two men who lived the outlaw code: defy the machine, honor your roots, and raise a glass to the ghosts. Jennings, who’d battle his own demons before passing in 2002 at 64, and Williams, now 76 and still touring, embodied country’s blue-collar ethos. Their Nashville Now set wasn’t scripted spectacle; it was a reminder that the best collisions happen when egos step aside and stories take center stage.
In today’s polished country landscape—dominated by pop crossovers and TikTok hooks—moments like this feel like contraband. They harken to a time when Nashville was a battleground, and outlaws like Waylon and Bocephus were the rebels with a cause. As Williams growls in “The Conversation,” “Break a bottle, hoss, I’ll tell ya ’bout the Drifting Cowboy band,” it’s an invitation to pull up a chair. Lucky for us, the tape’s still rolling.
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